88 on the BB, 14000 in chips, blinds 1000/2000, 25 players left, 10 first payedRate this Topic
Posted on Feb 26th 2008 - Subject: 88 on the BB, 14000 in chips, blinds 1000/2000, 25 players l
I was busted out of a 7$ tournament and I do not know if what I did was a good play or a big donk move :I have 14000 in chips, blinds 1000/2000, 25 players left, 10 first payed, 88 on the BB, the cutoff (30000+ chips) min raise at 4000 chips, the SB (25000+ chips) calls, action to me, I decided to go all-in with my 14000, so 10000 more. Is it a good play ? They both called me, the pot was 44000 chips, they checked the flop, an Ace come on the turn, the SB had AJ, and I was out ..... Was it best to fold, and wait a little more with only 11000 chips ?Â
Posted on Feb 27th 2008
Tough spot to be in. With the SB calling the min raise, I would just be flat calling here. You can assume that the min raiser has a two big cards, or a small pair and is looking to build a pot for value. The SB likes his cards, but they aren't good enough to raise, so he would rather see a flop for cheap. You would assume that they would fold to a raise given these circumstances, but since no cards have hit the flop, if one player calls, the other is likely to come along as well. In addition to that, a 10K raise is not that big a deal, when the blinds are 1 / 2 K . Since running through the blinds does not cripple you, I would be calling the flop and looking for an 8, or something low. If no big cards hit the flop, I would be pushing and trying to take it down right there. If a big card does hit, then I can safely fold, and still have 10K left in chips for a push either out of the SB into the BB to steal, or 9K after the blinds for a final push with a decent draw. The 88 does seem quite powerful, but with a min raise and a limper coming into the pot, it is unlikely that you will get a fold you are looking for, or take down the pot before the flop. If you do limp into the pot, a 10K bet into a 12K pot is quite substantial and doesnt' really provide an odds for players to call, but calling a shortie before the flop comes holds better promise in some players eyes since there are still 5 cards to come out.
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Posted on Mar 22nd 2008
Good reply by Dingus. I think I would have folded because of the caller, I would not expect both to fold to my reraise.
Posted on Mar 23rd 2008
i think call is best 11000 is enough to make another roundand hope for a better hand if only the small blind called mabee push only up against 1 then but in this sittuation chance of 2 callers your odds of 8s holding up against probably a minimum of 4 overcards with possible str8 and flush outs as well are not good
sry bout dinner but i won 20 in the tourney
Posted on Mar 31st 2008
Dingus said it all nice repley .
OK OK I FOLD!!!
Posted on Apr 13th 2008 - Subject: re: 88 on the BB
In your situation it was probably better to fold. With an 88 in the final stages of a tournament, you want to go to the flop with max. one other player, Â In your case, it was suicide to go all-inn with an 88 against 2Â opponents (with more chips then you!) who are not likely going to fold the hand they have just raised. Unless you're convinced, that the flop brings you a third 8 witch is a very small chance, you are better of folding...
Posted on Apr 13th 2008
I think i would just call then push depending on the flop since they are not gonna fold because they get great pot odds preflop
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